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Answering the Ignorance of the enemies of Hadith
Rebuttal of the misuse of the Hadith about the people of Uraina
WHAT DO THE 
QUR'AN 
and HADITH SAY ABOUT ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY A JUST, ISLAMIC 
SOCIETY FROM WITHIN? DETERRENT, SEVERE PUNISHMENT
by 
Kaukab Siddique, 
Ph.D
Agents of western imperialism and 
Zionism 
have made it a hobby to 
spread lies about Hadith in an effort to delink 
the Qur'an from the Hadith so 
that they can then interpret the Qur'an as they 
wish. As a result we have 
seen weird stories claiming that 
Masjid Aqsa 
is not the one in Jerusalem or 
that jihad is not armed struggle but 
self-purification or that Jihad is not 
permitted against hypocrites.
The favorite methodology of these people 
working knowingly or 
unknowingly for the imperialists is to select one 
Hadith totally out of 
context and then to claim: how could the Prophet 
(pbuh) have said this! 
Although the Qur'an is replete with verses urging 
the believers to deal 
harshly and ruthlessly with the oppressors, and 
the Hadith only endorses and 
explains the Qur'an, these agent-types try to 
claim that Hadith alone is 
harsh against the oppressors and the Prophet 
(pbuh) could not have taught 
anything like that.
Let us first look at HOW THE QUR'AN DEALS with 
those WHO TRY TO DESTROY 
ISLAMIC SOCIETY WHICH IS JUSTLY ESTABLISHED by 
the consent of the people. The 
Qur'an says:
"The punishment of those who wage war against 
Allah and His messenger, and 
strive with might and main for disruption and 
mischief through the land is: 
execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of 
hands and feet from opposite 
sides, or exile from the land: That is their 
disgrace in this world, and a 
heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; 
except for those who repent 
before they fall into your power: In that case, 
know that Allah is 
Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." (5:33-34)
Notice that no one can literally "wage war 
against Allah." Allah by 
definition is too powerful for any such thing. As 
the Hadith literature 
shows, war against Allah is war against the 
Prophet (pbuh) [which is 
literally impossible once the Prophet has passed 
away] and hence this term 
means war against the Islamic system, such as by 
blasphemy, treachery and 
cultural imperialism of the Salman Rushdie type.
The enemies try to enter the Muslim 
community by winning its trust and 
then attack it from within. That is disruption 
and  mischief. The punishments 
are:
1. Execution.
2. Crucifixion
3. Cutting off hands and feet from opposite 
directions.
4. Exile
And then they are not cleansed of their sins as 
in other punishments but will 
also be punished in the Hereafter. The way to 
repentance is to repent BEFORE 
the Islamic forces get hold of the disrupters.
As is obvious, the Qur'an has to be 
explained by the Hadith and the 
rulings of khulafa and scholars so as to 
delineate WHICH punishment will go 
for which crime. Will crucifixion follow 
execution, to make an example of the 
disrupters, or is it a separate punishment? 
Similarly with cutting off of 
hands and feet from opposite directions. Should 
those so punished be given 
treatment or are they to die as a result of this 
punishment? Which crime 
should be punished by exile?
[We also need Hadith to know that 5:33 does not 
apply to the external enemies 
of Islam, the unbelievers, but to the internal 
disruptionists.]
Is it not strange that the "Qur'an only" 
people DO NOT begin with the 
Qur'an in the case of severe punishments? Instead 
they begin with a Hadith 
about the punishment meted out to the people of 
Urainah. The hadith is as 
follows:
Some people of the tribe of 'Ukl and 'Uraina 
arrived at Medina to meet the 
Prophet and embraced Islam and said, "O Allah's 
Prophet! We are the owners of 
milch livestock (i.e. bedouins) and not farmers 
(i.e. countrymen)." They 
found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. 
So Allah's Apostle ordered 
that they should be provided with some milch 
camels and a shepherd and 
ordered them to go out of Medina and to drink the 
camels' milk and urine (as 
medicine) So they set out and when they reached 
Al-Harra, they reverted to 
Heathenism after embracing Islam, and killed the 
shepherd of the Prophet and 
drove away the camels. When this news reached the 
Prophet, he sent some 
people in pursuit of them. (So they were caught 
and brought back to the 
Prophet). The Prophet gave his orders in their 
concern. So their eyes were 
branded with pieces of iron and their hands and 
legs were cut off and they 
were left away in Harra till they died in that 
state of theirs. (See Hadith 
234 Vol 1)
These people pretended to have become Muslims, 
won the trust of the Islamic 
community, and then committed:
i. treachery,
ii. murder
iii. and banditry.
As a result, they were severely punished. 
Even their eyes were reportedly 
gouged out and they were left to die in the 
desert. When a small community is 
being infiltrated by enemies who want to destroy 
it from within, anyone who 
wants the community to survive has to give 
deterrent punishment which makes 
academics cringe. [Look at what is happening in 
America, people killing their 
own children, murdering their wives, indulging in 
child pornography: these 
people need the punishments mentioned in the 
Qur'an.]
The question arises, why is the destruction 
of the bandits' eyes 
additional in the Hadith when it is only 
crucifixion or amputation of arms 
and legs in the Qur'an? The answer is that the 
hadith relates to an event 
BEFORE the verse, 5:33, was revealed:
"Hummam narrates from Qatada who narrates from 
Ibn Sirin that the event 
concerning the people of Uraina occurred BEFORE 
the revelation of hudood 
punishments in the Qur'an." 
[For those desirous of studying the issue in 
detail, see Ahkamul Qur'an vol. 
4., written by Abu Bakr al-Jasas (d. 370) which 
is now available in Arabic 
with Urdu translation by Abdul Qayyum, published 
in 1999 by the Sharia 
academy of the International Islamic University 
in Islamabad, Pakistan.]
Gradual changes in society, along with 
gradual revelation of the 
Qur'an, was brought about by the Prophet Muhammad 
(pbuh). Where he was 
loving, kind, generous and forgiving, he also 
knew that the Islamic community 
has to be defended against enemies who will 
strike from outside and within. 
When treachery, murder and inner disruption 
appears, it must be suppressed; 
otherwise the community cannot survive.
Once the fear of death and deterrent 
punishment had been put into the 
hearts of the treacherous one, the Prophet's 
(pbuh) Hadith forbade all 
mutilation. Again, step by step change.
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We should praise Imam Bukhari's honesty that 
he collected a Hadith 
because it had proper chains of narration 
although it had been abrogated. 
Thus we know that our great scholars like Bukhari 
did not hide anything.
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Another aspect of this Hadith which 
delights the enemies of Islam and 
the ignorant munkareene Hadith is the reference 
to the drinking of urine. 
Again, the ignorant ones did not read the Hadith 
carefully. Let me teach 
them, although they come as challengers, fools 
that they are, instead of 
students:
i. Both Qur'an and Hadith contain materials about 
the beginnings of the era 
of Islam when things which were removed later 
were still prevalent. For 
instance, the Qur'an did not right away ban the 
drinking of alcohol and 
gambling:
"They ask thee concerning intoxicants and 
gambling. Say: In them is great sin 
and some profit for people, but the sin is 
greater than the profit." (2:219) 
The ban on intoxicants and gambling came in 
5:90-91.
The same gradualism is true about women whom 
men kept without marriage 
"those whom your right hands possess." The same 
is true of RIBA or interest. 
There is no prohibition of Muta' (temporary 
marriage) in the Qur'an which 
went on for a long time till the Prophet (pbuh) 
banned it completely. (Ibn 
Abbas, r.a., believed that it had not been 
banned.)
Similarly people believed that the urine of 
camels (not all urine) was 
beneficial and that is reflected in this Hadith.
ii. Note that the Prophet (pbuh) is not 
commanding the believers to drink 
urine but only pointing to the chance given for 
recuperation to one group,  
the people of Uraina.
iii. There are numerous Hadith which teach that 
urine even in small droplets 
is not tolerable for Muslims. There are strict 
rules of hygiene taught by the 
Prophet (pbuh). Anyone who is honest in his 
studies can see the Hadith 
segments on urine and cleanliness to see this 
fact.
iv. None of the collectors or scholars of Hadith, 
then or now, have seen the 
Urainah hadith as an argument in favor of 
drinking urine. In fact Imam 
Bukhari has set this section heading for his 
collection of Hadith about 
staying away from urine:
"One of the major sins is not to protect oneself 
from being soiled by one's 
urine." His collection includes this powerful 
hadith:
"From Ibn Abbas (r.a): The Prophet, pbuh, once 
passed by two graves and said: 
These two persons are being punished for not 
avoiding a big sin. One of them 
did not save himself from being soiled with his 
urine, while the other used 
to go about with calumnies, spreading bad blood 
between people...." (Sahih 
Al-Bukhari Vol.1, #217)
Based on Hadith, pious Muslims have built 
the entire culture of 
cleanliness and staying away from urine. [Salman 
Rushdie tried to ridicule 
Muslims for being obsessed with water and 
washing.] What liars these 
munkareene hadith are that they try to tear one 
narration out of context to 
claim that Hadith teaches the drinking of urine! 
These munkareene are 
slanderers. They are not interested in discussion 
but in systematic abuse of 
the Prophet's Hadith.
I sincerely urge people like Shahid Mahmud and 
the Pervezis to repent and 
re-join the fold of Islam. Your kufr against the 
Hadith of the Prophet (pbuh) 
will only make you more and more a tool of the 
Zionists and the imperialists. 
A brother on this forum used harsh language for 
Shahid when he tried to 
insult hazrat Ali (r.a) and the ahlul bait 
(r.a.). Shahid has to learn that 
Shahid's father is not the only person on the 
planet who deserves respect. 
Shahid told brazen lies about:
1. Hazrat Abu Huraira (r.a.)
2. All narrators of hadith.
3. All scholars of hadith.
4. Imam Bukhari in particular.
5. Imam Ghazali (in a total concoction taken from 
Imam Ghazali's attack on 
fabricators).
6. Maulana Maudoodi.
7. Mujahideen.
8. Martyrs of Islam.
Before Shahid starts his dirty game again, I 
invite him to join me in saying:
‘O Allah forgive our sins; help us to follow the 
commands of Allah in the 
Qur'an as explained by the authentic hadith. O 
Allah if we have said anything 
which gives the impression of disrespect for the 
sahaba and the ahlul bait, 
forgive us and accept our sincere repentance. 
Help us to stand united against 
the Zionists and the imperialists and help us to 
stay away from cooperation 
with oppressors."
[Ameen, summa aameen]
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